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Monday, 08 February 2010

  • Did the authors of the bible believe in Trinity?

    I have been researching this for awhile now for one reason... it is not clear.

    If one author had said Jesus is God Almighty, One with the Father and the person of the Holy Spirit then it would all be over... but they do not. The authors do not, but the english versions make it seem as though they did. But I am "examining the writings (grapha) to see if these things are so" and the more I look the less sure I am, for each thing mistranslated or misrepresented another issue seems to pop up to research. The current one (I believe these are the same issue) is Immanuel, and He will be called Mighty God. I have learned that the idea of ambassador means "standing in the place of" one whom you represent. So to me this is not an issue, yet I will research, test, examine, and prove before I conclude.

    Just One question though... If the idea of trinity is so foundational, why do the apostles distinguish between Jesus and His Father, and why do they NEVER (Titus, and I Peter are not what they seem, they seem to be discussing a list example; "Paul, and His Father", rather then "James, and his alter-ego") call him God in the letters to the churches? Although Thomas called him thus "My Lord and my God".

    What is NOT there:

    1. Godhead (see previous post)

    2. Jesus being worshiped as diety (see word worship post)

    3. An clear explanation of trinity in a doctrinal statement to a new church (Romans)

    4. Jesus claiming the title of God (see Jason Debuhn's Accuracy and Bias in Translation)

    5. Jesus having all knowledge, but "setting it aside"
    Philippians 2:5-7 (New King James Version)
    5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, (did not think it a thing to be grasped) 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
    [Passage not only shows Jesus as not God, "equal to God", but shows a divine Jesus "form of God".]

    So is it clear in it's original langauge... if so were?
    If you say John 1:1, if that is true why, of WHY would something so critical be only clearly stated once?

Sunday, 31 January 2010

  • My Top ten most influential books



    1. The Formation of the Christian Biblical Canon- Lee McDonald


    2. The Knowledge of the Holy - AW Tozer


    3. Death of Death- John Owens


    4. Practice of the Presence of God-- Brother Lawrence


    5. Strong Concordance -- Not exactly a book, but a very useful research tool


    6. The Pursuit of God-- AW Tozer


    7. The Chisel 'I Will Build My Church...' by "mike peters and co"?
    ---VERY good about sanctification
    **Free book from http://www.jesuslifetogether.com/***


    8. Truth in Translation- Accuracy and Bias in New Testament Translations-- Jason BeDuhn
    -- answered some of my last trinity research questions, including John 1:1


    9. Pilgrims Progress-- John Bunyan


    10. Lost Scriptures- Books that did not make it into the New Testament-- Bart Ehrman
    -- Good for; Shepard of Hermas, Ep. of Barnabas, The Didache, I Clement, each of which was at one time considered at least regionally to be canon. **Warning do NOT RECOMMEND EHRMAN!!!!!!!!! This is a resource tool, divorced from the ideas of Ehrman it is ok.


    Any books on your top ten **not including the bible** that would be unique or different that have taught you alot?

Saturday, 23 January 2010

  • Porting over the soft Junk

    I just started a revelife account under the same name, and all the public consumption posts will find their lonely way over there.

    By "public consumption" I mean non in-depth looks at things, ie shorter posts less evidence shown to back up information presented... ie anythin I think revelife main might post.

    Upcoming:

    Psalm and Beatitudes
    Bereans
    Biblical Jesus
    Once Saved always Saved
    and if you have seen a post I have done that would match this criteria please let me know which would... so I cant share it with others

Sunday, 10 January 2010

  • Are the Bereans dead?

    Acts 17:10-12 (New King James Version)

    Ministering at Berea

    10 Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. 12 Therefore many of them believed, and also not a few of the Greeks, prominent women as well as men.

    The biblical Ideal of truth-seeking

    When I read this I see two groups--- one Paul, an apostle in the place of Judas, and the town of Berea. One is learned and very educated, the other willing to learn and test. The Bereans did not just trust Paul, they did not blindly believe, but with readiness examined and tested what they have been shown to see if it is true

    What Christians read

    Joel Osteen -- the intellectual level of a shelled sea urchin
    Joyce Meyers -- Does a lady need more then the bible to figure this out?
    "Love Languages" -- I remembering being told that in order to get married I had to read this first... I guess no man got married before it, eh?
    "The Shack" -- A fictional piece of reading that purports to try and explain the common understanding that god is a suicidal schizophrenic. (This is opposed to the One true God, YHWH who sent his son to be a sacrifice for His people--
    Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD)

    Why should Christians care?

    1. They should be able to defend what they believe--

    1 Peter 3:15
    But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear

    2. They need to test to see if it is TRUE--

    John 4:23
    But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

    3. We need to know enough to judge righteously--

    1 Corinthians 6:3
    Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

    4. We need to be able to tell what is man's law, and what is GOD's law--

    Matthew 15:9
    But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men

    5. The false teachers exist and they TAKE YOUR MONEY.

    2 Peter 2:1-3
    1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
    2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
    3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

    6. Because the path is small, and there cannot be a large number of christians if Jesus was right. So we need to find what is true and follow that instead of just what we are taught.---

    Matthew 7:13
    "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it."
    Matthew 7:14
    Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
    Matthew 13:24-30 (New King James Version)
    24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, 'Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?' 28 He said to them, 'An enemy has done this.' The servants said to him, 'Do you want us then to go and gather them up?' 29 But he said, 'No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn."

    The reason I believe that the ideals of the Bereans are Dead

    VERY VERY FEW list truth as an interest.
    People are not willing to test what others believe to see if they themselves are wrong.
    People do not seek material that challenges their own beliefs and look for only things that support it, giving them a weak foundation.
    Ladies, who lead the society through their desires are looking for people who ascribe to a set belief pattern instead of people who look for truth.
    Men, do not stand up for truth, instead defend error with lies, and deceit. I RARELY see men who use "common sense" when dealing with biblical topics... most either bury their ideas in jargon that confuses the fact that it does not follow logic, or they defend lies with emotional outbursts devoid of factual support.

Thursday, 07 January 2010

  • Currently
    Algebra 1/2 - Test Masters (Saxon Algebra)
    By John Saxon
    see related

    "Godhead" and how the translators got it there



    The Wiki-Summary of "Godhead"

    Godhead is a form of the word godhood, and denotes the divine character of the Christian God. Godhead is also a title for God, or the Trinity.

    Though somewhat archaic, the term survives in modern English because of its use in three places of the Authorized King James Version of the Bible. In that translation, the word was used to translate three different Greek words.


    First instance of a word being translated "Godhead" and other usages -- Acts 17:19 (KJV)

    The passage

    Acts 17:29 (King James Version)
    29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

    The greek word - Strong's G2304 -- θεῖος

    Part of speech-- Adjective
    Root-- theos

    2304
    --Thayers Lexicon

    Other usages of the greek word

    2 Peter 1:3-4 (New King James Version)
    3 as His divine [2304] power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine [2304] nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    Romans 1:20's "Godhead"

    Romans 1:20 (King James Version)
    20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    The greek word - Strong's G2305 -- θειότης

    Part of speech- Noun
    Root- theios [2304 see above]

    Other usages -- No other biblical usages

    "In him dwells the fullness of "Godhead" bodily" Col 2:9

    The passage

    Colossians 2:9 (New King James Version)
    9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

    The greek word - Strong's G2320 -- θεότης

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    Important Note

    G2320 "deity" differs from G2305 "divinity" as essence differs from quality or attribute.

    --Blue Letter Bible. "Dictionary and Word Search for theotēs (Strong's 2320)".
    Blue Letter Bible. 1996-2010. 7 Jan 2010.

    What does this mean in normal people language? The Greek word θεότης used in Col. 2:9 would mean the essence or flavor of God, and the Greek word θειότης in Rom 1:20 would be simply the quality of being God i.e divinity. So instead of making this harder distinction the translators choose another word that meant neither of the two, but instead meant a plurality of deity beings... "godhead".

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